tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669082569722144458.post9063968779107631342..comments2023-05-13T08:31:52.858-07:00Comments on San Diego Freemason: Can a Woman Be a Freemason?San Diego Freemasonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12138769022498075405noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669082569722144458.post-87024173670359395762010-08-30T13:25:56.521-07:002010-08-30T13:25:56.521-07:00I have had far more fraternal and civil experience...I have had far more fraternal and civil experiences with mainstream Freemasons than not. I would like to believe that it is a loud, yet ignorant, minority that is rude, and antagonistic to women in the craft.JELhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05294629284609836152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669082569722144458.post-8456419485433552892010-08-26T03:39:03.957-07:002010-08-26T03:39:03.957-07:00depends on who you talk to.
if you are evolved and...depends on who you talk to.<br />if you are evolved and live in the present, yes.<br /><br />if you want to be an elitist, a bigot and racist mason, no.<br /><br />thank our forefathers for freedom of conscious.Tubal Cainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00704479584240584425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669082569722144458.post-21172100798760542452010-08-24T08:24:06.859-07:002010-08-24T08:24:06.859-07:00John Galt,
Thank you for your supportJohn Galt,<br /><br />Thank you for your supportJELhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05294629284609836152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669082569722144458.post-91677442937198217142010-08-22T23:47:22.479-07:002010-08-22T23:47:22.479-07:00Sister,
You would be welcome here. The men would...Sister, <br /> You would be welcome here. The men would take ideas and thoughts quite well. We are just impressed with eloquent thoughts from women as we are from men. <br /><br /> It is not a male-female issue in our area. It is an adult-child issue. If a Mason is strong and intelligent enough to be able to discuss ideas openly then they are most certainly welcome.John Galthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17673745675058971875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669082569722144458.post-14383035623052812342010-08-21T22:14:28.795-07:002010-08-21T22:14:28.795-07:00Interesting to note, that in the California mainst...Interesting to note, that in the California mainstream ritual the wording is "I will not assist or be present at the making of a woman a Mason..." It says nothing of passing or raising.Prexyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09360373309806880168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669082569722144458.post-20363807333416834532010-08-20T09:59:43.918-07:002010-08-20T09:59:43.918-07:00Thank you San Diego and Galt for your positive res...Thank you San Diego and Galt for your positive responses.<br />From where I sit, I can't imagine a Masonic landscape where co-masonic Obedience, even in the "liberal" arena will dominate. Unless I have been using the wrong litmus,I have equated that liberality with a need to practice more European rituals without the GL politics and tedium, most associated with American Masonry today. I have not felt an overwhelming acceptance of women within lodge. Correct me if I'm wrong I'm all ears and eyes.<br />My lodge has, and will remain if accepted, very supportive of co-masonic lodges in our area-albeit now more descretly. I have enjoyed the commentary from both the male and female perspective on symbols. But, I have also wittnessed strong, intelligent and opinionated women of my lodge hold back, say nothing, not volunteer- saying later, "I didn't know how the men would take----."<br />Politicaly, while I do not crave, but rather avoid, Mainstream recognition, Feminine only obediences get more, subliminal, support from the Mainstream because they aren't a threat.JELhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05294629284609836152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669082569722144458.post-89944108900542582142010-08-19T16:58:21.785-07:002010-08-19T16:58:21.785-07:00I am all for the Lodge deciding what it wants to b...I am all for the Lodge deciding what it wants to be. Sister June and the members of her Lodge want an female only lodge, that is great. Other Brethren want a male only lodge. That too is great. Others want a mixed lodge. There is no problem with that at all. It should be a matter of what the lodge wants, not what an over-arching authority wishes to thrust upon the lodges.John Galthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17673745675058971875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669082569722144458.post-17805371351165690822010-08-19T14:02:17.549-07:002010-08-19T14:02:17.549-07:00Thank you June for your comments. I do understand...Thank you June for your comments. I do understand that some women,and some men, prefer to be in a single-sex lodge. The sisters I know at Aletheia obviously prefer an all-female environment.<br /><br />A concern that I have is with the recent action on the part of the Grand Orient of France allowing lodges to become mixed.<br /><br />I am not opposed to that, but I am afraid at some point in the future within Liberal Freemasonry there will be only mixed, or female obediences.<br /><br />For those men that prefer an all-male body, it will become increasingly rare to have that opportunity, though I personally do not desire it for myself.<br /><br />Art et Lumiere in Los Angeles voted to accept women into it's GOdF lodge. As a result, in Los Angeles, we will have a mixed GOdF lodge, (if the GOdF approves the mixed option when they vote in France) New Isis of the GWU, which is mixed, Lodge Unification of LDH which is mixed, and Aletheia of the WGLB, which is for women only.<br /><br />I was informed that the GOUSA will follow the lead of whatever the GOdF decides regarding the admission of women. All male Liberal lodges will become less, and less common on the landscape.<br /><br />So while I prefer mixed lodges, I do support the desire of those that would prefer all three models to be available.San Diego Freemasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12138769022498075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8669082569722144458.post-21812935274591933672010-08-19T13:44:39.896-07:002010-08-19T13:44:39.896-07:00As a Feminine Freemason, having been Raised in 200...As a Feminine Freemason, having been Raised in 2003, I am greatful for the opportunity, and the patience of our European Brothers/Sisters to have afforded American womena chance to participate in the Rites.<br />I differ from our host, in that, while I have assisted, and enjoyed co-masonic work, I do so more enjoy "seperate but equal".<br />Men and women DO think differantly. That isn't an expression of prejudice, but reality born out of evolution. And I'm glad of it! While I understand the action of ying/yang in co-masonry. I prefer to say, do, think and share in the company of Sisters, save but on rare occasion.JELhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05294629284609836152noreply@blogger.com